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New tax and mot laws

Post by Andrew1980 » 14/02/18 9:56

So I have been reading about this on the news, how will it affect our mr2's are they all gonna fail their mot's


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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by DJCarlos » 14/02/18 13:00

It sounds like diesels will be the most affected?


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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by Andrew1980 » 14/02/18 13:37

I'm not convinced our emissions are up to scratch. It looks pretty bad for all classic cars under 40

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Post by shinny » 14/02/18 14:13

Any links to hard facts that you can post?

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Post by jimi » 14/02/18 14:28

There aren't any real "hard facts" at the mo, they are all just proposals, nothing has been written into law.
As far as I can see in the proposals nothing wiil change regarding emmission requirements for our cars (mr2's).
There's a lot of baseless scaremongering going on! Link to the consultation document
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... and-safety
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Post by DJCarlos » 14/02/18 15:31

It only effects diesel engines - the emission rule changes are around DPFs.

Details here https://www.whatcar.com/news/mot-test-changes-in-2018/

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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by jimi » 15/02/18 9:20

DJCarlos wrote:
14/02/18 15:31
It only effects diesel engines - the emission rule changes are around DPFs.

Details here https://www.whatcar.com/news/mot-test-changes-in-2018/
Typical journalist's interpretation of the proposals, not "facts" ;)
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Post by TonyleFrog » 15/02/18 12:36

The vast majority of that consultation document is all about new cars. There is only one section of the remotest significance: emissions re kit cars on page 16. As ours cars do not come under that definition it's irrelevant. The only possible concern is if it is extended to engine swaps. Even then it would only be an issue if you decided to decat your V6.

What will be of more immediate importance is the proposed revised MOT Inspection Manual due for introduction in May.

Draft document here - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -draft.pdf

The good news is the emissions requirements have not changed. The flowcharts just look different from the current ones as they have been redrawn.

The potential bad news is airbag deletion. See page 13. Extensively Modified Vehicles..
This exemption does not apply to vehicles with minor modifications. Therefore, a car fitted with rally style seats, body kit and a sports steering wheel would not be exempt from the requirement to have a driver’s airbag where one was fitted as standard equipment.
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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by shinny » 15/02/18 12:48

jimi wrote:
14/02/18 14:28
There aren't any real "hard facts" at the mo, they are all just proposals, nothing has been written into law.
As far as I can see in the proposals nothing wiil change regarding emmission requirements for our cars (mr2's).
There's a lot of baseless scaremongering going on! Link to the consultation document
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... and-safety
I'll be feeding back on that - thanks for the link :clapping:

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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by vanilla.coffee » 20/02/18 7:07

Not bothered really.
They'll take the internet off us if people keep doing this.

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Re: New tax and mot laws

Post by Gazza_DJ » 20/02/18 15:51

TonyleFrog wrote:
15/02/18 12:36

The potential bad news is airbag deletion. See page 13. Extensively Modified Vehicles..
This exemption does not apply to vehicles with minor modifications. Therefore, a car fitted with rally style seats, body kit and a sports steering wheel would not be exempt from the requirement to have a driver’s airbag where one was fitted as standard equipment.
Probably won't be a problem for UK market SW20's, as the airbag is mechanical - there's no telltale light on the dash. Unless the tester happens to know it should have had an airbag, there is no reasonable way they could know it did have one from the factory :)
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