The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by pbmr2 » 14/09/17 20:49

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14/09/17 19:00
I did a "two ball" rally which was 1200 miles and 8 countries over 7 days and it was hard work. You're in the car 6-7 hours and and not hanging around and it's a mad dash rather than a fun drive..

20 days of hotels and B&Bs is going to add up a bit, I can live with the fuel/ferry/toll costs :)
A little more chilled would be nice, going to need to find a co-driver as 20 days of doing all the driving is going to be hard work :shocked:

1200 miles in 7 days at 7 hours a day, that's like 24mph? Was it lots of back roads and stopping for fuel, food, sights etc?

Where I lived in France was about 750miles and that was just a 12hour trip door to door with the train crossing. Though apart from the last hour it's all motorway.
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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by gavsdavs » 16/09/17 12:55

pbmr2 wrote:
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1200 miles in 7 days at 7 hours a day, that's like 24mph? Was it lots of back roads and stopping for fuel, food, sights etc?
It was
London to Dover to St Omer - easy enough.
St Omer to SaarBrucken
Saarbrucken to Innsbruck
Innsbruck to Lake Como
Lake Como to Monaco then Nice
Nice to Dunkirk and then London

So 6 days and more like 2000 miles, with Nice to London in 1 day being the hard one, 3.5 tanks of fuel in a day.

If you haven't done one of these kind of trips before you shouldn't underestimate how much fuss and faff it is getting a group of cars and it's occupants to cover just 300 miles a day. People want to stop for toilets, coffee, photographs, etc. It's not as easy as storming down an autobahn at 100+ for 3 hours straight. If you are not on an autoroute, your average speed drops to 40 odd mph.

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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by shinny » 16/09/17 13:57

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...with Nice to London in 1 day being the hard one, 3.5 tanks of fuel in a day.
Yup, I winced when I read that. Huge driving day, that :shocked:

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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by pbmr2 » 16/09/17 14:57

Ah so 66% more distance than 1200, makes more sense. Used to live 2 hours north of Nice, know the area well :D
Nice to Calais is 1200+km. 11/12 hours straight plus fuel and rest stops. Used to do the opposite direction as a kid, think how the parents coped with 3 kids :laughing

Been on 3 big Euro tours, last one was:
London - Calais - Amasterdam.
Amsterdam - Cologne (then deported back to Belgium, another story)
Belgium (border) - Prague
Prague - Vienna
Vienna - Milan
Milan - Lyon
Lyon - Dover

On the big tours it's a bit different as the only meeting point is the end of the day, how each car deals with that is up to them.
For a club run it does indeed become more complicated if everyone wants to stay as a single group. You're bang on with the complications, no amount of planning is going to account for the artist's eye for a photo or the leaky bum from yesterdays roadside food stop.
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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by gavsdavs » 16/09/17 15:48

shinny wrote:
16/09/17 13:57
gavsdavs wrote:
16/09/17 12:55
...with Nice to London in 1 day being the hard one, 3.5 tanks of fuel in a day.
Yup, I winced when I read that. Huge driving day, that :shocked:
Yeah that wasn't fun. 5am rise, 6pm leave, fuel every 250/300 miles because you're doing high speed, an hours delay at the traffic jam in Lyon. No real breaks aside from fuel and fresh coffee.

Got to Dunkirk an hour later than i should have - took a wrong turn and on something like a 7pm ferry. Got a bit of sleep on the ferry but it didn't help a huge amount.
Off the ferry at Dover at about 9pm and back to london around 2 hours later.

Tinnitus, couldn't sleep, etc, not to be repeated.

It's always tough to decide whether to do A roads and enjoy the drive a bit more and cover a lot less ground, or have to bomb up the autoroutes and not really enjoy driving except that the roads on the continent are so much better than ours.

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Re: The BIG one - 2020 Pan Euro Tour

Post by BALDYMONSTER » 16/09/17 20:52

Definately interested.

Something like this has been on my bucket list for two decades.

Timing is perfect as I reckon it will take that long to get my 2 how I want it to be.

Good chance Mrs BALDYMONSTER will be up for this as well as she is a real road trip fan.
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