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Red fan light
Hello so day one problem one
So start with 1993 2l gt t-bar
Driving home last night noticed that the red fan light come on
After a little reading on a few Google searches I'm of the understanding this relates to the fan in the engine lid (please correct if wrong)
So a little prodding about i can see that this fan has been modified I'm guessing to get away without fixing the problem,
Underneath the fod switches there is another switch added this controls the fan on off but only works when the front lights are on bit of a bodge job as well twisted wires instead of connections
So my thinking rewire the fan correctly and I'm expecting the fan to run permently
Then try and diagnose the part thatthats failed
Which from my searches tell me it will be the temp sensor or the control unit
Three questions
1) am I on the right track
2) why would anyone add a switch instead of fixing the problem
3) does anybody have the part numbers and wiring diagram
Thanks in advance for helping
So start with 1993 2l gt t-bar
Driving home last night noticed that the red fan light come on
After a little reading on a few Google searches I'm of the understanding this relates to the fan in the engine lid (please correct if wrong)
So a little prodding about i can see that this fan has been modified I'm guessing to get away without fixing the problem,
Underneath the fod switches there is another switch added this controls the fan on off but only works when the front lights are on bit of a bodge job as well twisted wires instead of connections
So my thinking rewire the fan correctly and I'm expecting the fan to run permently
Then try and diagnose the part thatthats failed
Which from my searches tell me it will be the temp sensor or the control unit
Three questions
1) am I on the right track
2) why would anyone add a switch instead of fixing the problem
3) does anybody have the part numbers and wiring diagram
Thanks in advance for helping
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Re: Red fan light
I'd say your on the right track. Look on this thread for wiring diagrams http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/forums/198/80372.html also look in the Downloads section (link at the top of the page next to the Gallery)
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The fan ECU has to see a load, i.e the fan in the circuit and if the current goes outside a range the light comes on. Typically the fan still would not run if you unplugged the hood sensor because the fan has gone open circuit.
I replaced the fan with a power steering relay so I could also switch in the hood fan at the same time. The power steering relay coil draws 1.5A so this was still seen as a "Fan" by the ECU so the light remained off on the dash.
The PS relay is good for like 60A or more so it was ideal for turning on two fans in the engine bay.
I replaced the fan with a power steering relay so I could also switch in the hood fan at the same time. The power steering relay coil draws 1.5A so this was still seen as a "Fan" by the ECU so the light remained off on the dash.
The PS relay is good for like 60A or more so it was ideal for turning on two fans in the engine bay.
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Or an O/C on the wiring to the fan motor or the Cooling Fan Computer has failed (from memory I've probably seen more fan controller failures than motor failures on MK2's)
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Yes its possible the fan ECU has failed. All the electronics is now getting pretty old. The ECU would be a straight forward fix for someone with an electronics background.
I would be checking the wiring and making sure the fan has a decent earth connection before blaming the ECU.
Fan is easy to test, pull the connector and put a 12V battery on it.
If the hood sensor is unplugged then don't expect the fan to last that long, the brushes will wear out on it and it will stop. Even the decent SPAL fans only last a few thousand hours of run time, thats why you either boost or temperature control them or both so they only come on when needed, plus it draws about 4.5A from memory so you don't want it running full time.
I would be checking the wiring and making sure the fan has a decent earth connection before blaming the ECU.
Fan is easy to test, pull the connector and put a 12V battery on it.
If the hood sensor is unplugged then don't expect the fan to last that long, the brushes will wear out on it and it will stop. Even the decent SPAL fans only last a few thousand hours of run time, thats why you either boost or temperature control them or both so they only come on when needed, plus it draws about 4.5A from memory so you don't want it running full time.
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Re: Red fan light
Thanks for the replies ill be taking a proper look this weekend
What I am sure of so far is the fan is not at fault
Now it's just working backwards to see where the problem lies
What I am sure of so far is the fan is not at fault
Now it's just working backwards to see where the problem lies
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Re: Red fan light
The largest automotive SPAL fan available with that current rating is 190mm (7.5") diameter.
Go any bigger and you're looking at an uplift of between 1 and 3A.
http://www.spalautomotive.com/eng/produ ... al_12.aspx
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Re: Red fan light
The stock fan draws like 4.5A, the 9inch SPAL in mine is like 10-12A.
Looks like SPAL have changed their lineup since fitting mine in 2008. I actually e-mailed them to complain it wasn't using as much current as they published but they are changing the spec all the time and said it shifted as much air. From memory it moves as much air as the engine itself uses at the redline.
Believe it or not I only threw the box out it came in last month in a big cleanout.
Looks like SPAL have changed their lineup since fitting mine in 2008. I actually e-mailed them to complain it wasn't using as much current as they published but they are changing the spec all the time and said it shifted as much air. From memory it moves as much air as the engine itself uses at the redline.
Believe it or not I only threw the box out it came in last month in a big cleanout.