MBC install.
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MBC install.
So my MBC and vacuum pipe turned up yesterday.... Got the MBC from GTSChris and vac from eBay.
I was thinking about writing a detailed step by step 'how to' with pictures because when I was looking into it the info was hard to find without starting a tread. The info that's about maybe easy for a lot of people to understand but for the likes of me that are at the beginning of turbo knowledge, a detailed and car specific guide would be helpful.
Any thoughts?
I was thinking about writing a detailed step by step 'how to' with pictures because when I was looking into it the info was hard to find without starting a tread. The info that's about maybe easy for a lot of people to understand but for the likes of me that are at the beginning of turbo knowledge, a detailed and car specific guide would be helpful.
Any thoughts?
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Re: MBC install.
Go ahead.
Don't forget to keep the vac lines length to a minimum.
Don't forget to keep the vac lines length to a minimum.
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Re: MBC install.
MRturboTom wrote:Go ahead.
Don't forget to keep the vac lines length to a minimum.
That's good to know, I was thinking about mounting the MBC toward the top of the bay so that was a help, thanks.
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I've seen them mounted cockpit side of the engine bulkhead. May make for easier twiddling.
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there are tons of threads on the subject??
2seconds in google reveals this
http://www.twosrus.com/Articles/Install ... ctions.PDF
2seconds in google reveals this
http://www.twosrus.com/Articles/Install ... ctions.PDF
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Re: MBC install.
I know there's is lots of info about it but as stated in my original post, there's nothing detailing step by step making it easy for people who don't really have a clue. It's taken me a while to fully understand what to do because there are so many that say it a different way which is confusing.jimGTS wrote:there are tons of threads on the subject??
2seconds in google reveals this
http://www.twosrus.com/Articles/Install ... ctions.PDF
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Re: MBC install.
how many other ways can you say take off this pipe, that pipe, cut/bolt this pipe and T in a mbc?
take lots of pics along the way, and obviously have the car running 100% the way its ment to before writing a how to.
take lots of pics along the way, and obviously have the car running 100% the way its ment to before writing a how to.
......Rev4 Tbar Turbo......
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12.53 @ 114mph = ct20b UK record!
____Project, click me____
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12.53 @ 114mph = ct20b UK record!
____Project, click me____
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This is my point, it sounds simple to you but for the likes of me, not so muchjimGTS wrote:how many other ways can you say take off this pipe, that pipe, cut/bolt this pipe and T in a mbc?
take lots of pics along the way, and obviously have the car running 100% the way its ment to before writing a how to.
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Re: MBC install.
I'm not going to list a step by step as you need to be familier with the principals of the operation of a turbo before doing the conversion and also be aware that by increasing the boost you are getting rid of the factory over fueling which is effectivly the safty margin that Toyota builds in to cool the engine and allow for decreased fuel supply over time.
1. As pointed out the tubing needs to be as short as possible and ideally have a large internal diameter. I mounted the MBC to the TRD strut brace on a custom bracket held to the brace by stainless clamps.
2. The best way to stop the air from being released from the VSV valve is to cut the control wire at the ECU rather than physically have to block the tube to the VSV. Wire the ends to a 2 way connector and wire a short to the other side of the second connector and keep this in your tool kit along with a short bit of pipe to bypass the MBC. The advantage of an MBC is you can return it to stock boost in under 5 minutes to troubleshoot if you have to.Its the Blue wire with the orange stripe on a Rev 2 that controls the VSV.
3. Fit a wideband AFR to enable you to gradually increase the boost so you do not run lean. Really you do not want anything leaner than 13.5:1 WOT. An aftermarket boost gauge is a WASTE OF TIME for actually knowing whats going on in the combustion chamber. It will quite happily be showing you plenty of boost right up until your engine goes bang.
1. As pointed out the tubing needs to be as short as possible and ideally have a large internal diameter. I mounted the MBC to the TRD strut brace on a custom bracket held to the brace by stainless clamps.
2. The best way to stop the air from being released from the VSV valve is to cut the control wire at the ECU rather than physically have to block the tube to the VSV. Wire the ends to a 2 way connector and wire a short to the other side of the second connector and keep this in your tool kit along with a short bit of pipe to bypass the MBC. The advantage of an MBC is you can return it to stock boost in under 5 minutes to troubleshoot if you have to.Its the Blue wire with the orange stripe on a Rev 2 that controls the VSV.
3. Fit a wideband AFR to enable you to gradually increase the boost so you do not run lean. Really you do not want anything leaner than 13.5:1 WOT. An aftermarket boost gauge is a WASTE OF TIME for actually knowing whats going on in the combustion chamber. It will quite happily be showing you plenty of boost right up until your engine goes bang.
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Indeed. But then, it's just a dumb boost gauge, nothing more, nothing less. Although a wideband AFR will greatly increase the cost of the installation, it's pretty much the only thing between you and a lunched engine.An aftermarket boost gauge is a WASTE OF TIME for actually knowing whats going on in the combustion chamber. It will quite happily be showing you plenty of boost right up until your engine goes bang.
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I'm not planning on running daft boost pressure but up a little, maybe just 0.2 bar.
Thanks for the advice, don't think I'll be cutting any wires though, it will be easy enough to remove the MBC and reconnect the tvsv anyway.
Thanks for the advice, don't think I'll be cutting any wires though, it will be easy enough to remove the MBC and reconnect the tvsv anyway.
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Not me, I'm not willing to take risks. I will only start pushing it when it's safer too, as said about AFR, oil gauges and such like. I can't afford to got blowing engines and what not. I got a bit annoyed couple days ago when I got done by a spaceship shaped Civic type R although I did slightly miss 3rd
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Watch out for the new 3.2 Audis (the old ones are not a problem) and the 3.5 turbo diesel Mercs...........